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We received some mung beans from a friend with a container to soak them in.  The plastic container is an empty jar with holes in  the lid.  We soaked the beans and ate two salads with mung bean sprouts (delicious!) and let the others go a bit too long. 
My husband planted them in a hanging pot outside that hangs on our davits.  All five plants grew.  The picture is the result of two of those plants.  They reproduce quickly and are easy to grow with many vitamins to offer.


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I just had a recent Q&A with the manager Jonathon at West Marine Marco (He grew up on a sailboat.) about marine sanitation and the law. In a sense we were all right!  But none of us new the existing law. We talked about the Keys, Tortuga, state parks, land lubbers pestisides & fertilizers that leach off the Island at deadly levels and the city's discharge of sewage, etc...  I left not knowing much more than when I walked in.
So I set out to settle this once and for all!  After calling the US Coast Guard Ft. Myers Beach and was told untreated overboard discharge was restricted anywhare within 6 miles of the coast and in all inland waters.  The officer said I should Google (CFR') "Code of Federal Regulation" or go to the coast guard website. The tag. Still real broad! So what is the real law? Not the generic laymans law! And how do cities do it? The following is what I have found...

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Type I MSD: A flow-through discharge device that, under the test conditions described in 33 CFR 159.121, produces effluent having a fecal coliform bacteria count no greater than 1000/100 milliliters, and no visible floating solids. A Type I MSD is commonly a physical / chemical type (macerator / chlorinator).

Type II MSD:A flow-through discharge device the, under the test conditions described in 33 CFR 159.121, produces effluent having a fecal coliform bacteria count no greater than 200/100 milliliters, and suspended solids no greater than 150 milligrams/liter. A Type II MSD is commonly a biological (aerobic digestion) plant, but several physical / chemical plants are certified as Type II MSDs.

Type III MSD: A device designed to prevent the overboard discharge of treated or untreated sewage, or any waste derived from sewage. Most Type IIIs are holding tanks, but there are also vacuum collection systems, incineration systems, recirculation systems, and a composting system.

Portable Toilets: portable toilets are not defined in the law. They are simply toilets you can pick up and carry off the boat. They are not permanently installed on the boat. Permanently installed is defined in many standards as meaning that tools must be used to remove the device.

In addition to the above, some really large vessels have incinerators to dispose of waste.

Regulations and links to the EPA.
The Marine Sanitation Device Regulations for Recreational Boats a pdf file.
EPA List of No Discharge Zones
Cornell Law School, The US Code on MSDs
Justia.com Code Of Fed Regs on Marine Sanitation Device Standard

Some Coast Guard And Law Enforcement Policies.

If you have a Type I or II MSD and are in a No Discharge Zone, the device must be locked so it cannot be accidentally or deliberately discharged.   This means you must have some sort of locking device on the through hull valve to keep it in the closed position.  Any lock will do. With some law enforcement agencies simply locking the door to the head will do but that is the rare case. Most look for a lock on the valve that allows it to discharge into the water, or removal of the valve handle. However, some boats have a combination of two or more switches that must all be pressed at the same time to activate the pump.  The Coast Guard Office Of Boating Safety has said this is legal on recreational boats (see USCG letter to US Marine). For more See 33 CFR 159.7 for Acceptable Ways to Secure a System

Here is an excerpt from Florida's boating regulations:

"Under federal law, if your boat has a valve allowing direct overboard discharge of untreated waste, it must be closed while operating in all inland and coastal waters. It is suggested you use a non-releasable wire tie, lock, or remove the valve handle to secure the device. When you are more than 3 miles offshore in the ocean, the valve may be open allowing direct discharge overboard.

A valve may also be found on boats having both a Type I or II and a holding tank. This gives the boater an option to discharge treated waste overboard or to contain it for pump out later. In certain waters.

Many boats with a holding tank, have a Y valve installed which allows the tank to be pumped out at a pump out station, or discharged directly overboard.  Inside US waters this valve must be locked!  Beware; many people think that all they have to do is go three miles offshore and they can dump the tank.   Under Federal regulations this is true, but some coastal states, such as Rhode Island, have passed laws extending this distance.  In Rhode Island it is nine miles.  

Almost all inland lakes and rivers are no discharge zones. Unless there is a sewage plant there! Here I need to explain what this means. There are navigable waters and non-navigable waters. These are legal terms used to divide waters into those under Federal and State laws, and those that are controlled solely by the state or local authorities. For example, The Hudson River up to a point north of Albany NY, is a navigable waterway and is under both Federal and State laws.  Beyond that point it is non-navigable and controlled solely by the state. Clear Lake in California is sole state (or non-navigable water), while Lake Tahoe is a navigable waterway.  You need to ask the local authorities or your state Boating Law Administrator (see NASBLA ) about the waters you plan to use. The best plan is to assumme it is no-discharge until told otherwise by competent authority or if you know there is a sewage plant then it is a discharge zone. So when I say inland lakes and rivers I am speaking of non-navigable waters. This does not mean they can not be used by boats.

All of the waters of the state of Rhode Island are a No Discharge Zone.

I repeat, never assume an area is a discharge zone. Always assume it is a no discharge zone until you are informed otherwise by competent authority. Or if there is a Sewer plant near it is a discharge zone.


Recreational boat regulations and commercial vessel regulations are enforced in separate ways.  For recreational boats, the boat builder has the responsibility to insure that the boat meets the regulations that apply.  The Coast Guard does not routinely inspect recreational boats at the factory.  You may be visited by a representative (a contract employee) of the Coast Guard who will help you to comply with the laws. But it is your responsibility to certify that your boats comply with the law.

Many commercial vessels, especially passenger carrying vessels that carry more than six passengers, are inspected by the Coast Guard.  You must submit plans, have them approved, and undergo routine inspections during construction, and a final inspection.  All this is because it is the Coast Guard's responsibility to certify these boats. There may be additional requirements for the marine sanitation systems on commercial vessels.  You should contact the Coast Guard Marine Safety Center or the Marine Safety Office in your area about this before starting construction.




 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR)


--Google search Copy & past.

both of the links did not help a hole lot on smaller boats but are good U.S. Marine Law reasorses (GOP) U.S.Government  Printing Office



  Link #1: 
GPO Access Home Page.National Archives and Records Administration logo.blue pill

e-CFR Data is current as of February 21, 2012

Link #2: http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=fa922df37e32cb41bae14abe6eb6e817&rgn=div5&view=text&node=46:

MyFlorida.com Florida Department of Environmental Protection Florida Department of Environmental Protection

Vessel Discharge

Cruise ShipThe discharge of untreated "sewage" from boats into waters of the State is prohibited by both State law (Florida Litter Law - 403.413, F.S.) and Federal law (Clean Water Act). Note, graywater is not considered "sewage" in the law. Therefore, the discharge of graywater from boats into the sea around Florida is currently not prohibited. The law defines graywater from boats as "galley (kitchen), bath, and shower water."

Cruise Ships

The Florida Department of Environmental Protection entered into a Memorandum of Understanding with the cruise industry on December 6, 2001 regarding sewage discharges from cruise ships.

Gambling Vessels

The Florida Clean Ocean Act, Section 376.25, F.S., was enacted in July 2008. The Act directed the Florida Department of Environmental Protection to implement a registration program for gambling vessels. The Department developed and adopted Chapter 62-606 F.A.C., Releases from Gambling Vessels, on April 4, 2010. The rule requires owners/operators of gambling vessels to register with DEP and report releases of wastes into Florida Coastal Waters. It also requires waterfront landing facilities (berths) to provide certain waste services and requires the Department to provide an estimate of the minimum waste-service demand for each berth on its website.

There are also areas in state waters that have been designated as No Discharge Zones (NDZ). A NDZ prohibits the discharge of any sewage, whether treated or not, from a vessel into these state waters. In Florida there are NDZ's, near Ft. Walton Beach and around the Florida Keys.

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You could pick up any newspaper in almost any city and read a story of an organization helping to feed families.  I have lived in a resort/retirement area for the past six years.  Churches and organizations collect money and food to send to other countries who are in trouble and cannot feed their own people.  The organizations collect food and money to send to Immokolee, a city a little over an hour away, where there are many illigal immigrants who cannot get jobs and cannot feed their families.  Right here where I live, in said to be "Paradise", there are families who are struggling for the basics in life.  Why are we feeding people fifty miles and thousands of miles away when the help could be used right here in their own neighborhood.  

My mother was amazing at helping others right in our own city.  She collected food, toilitries, clothes and toys for the children every Christmas my whole childhood.  Our house was lined with boxes, the basement was full floor to ceiling and the car would be parked ourside because the garage was full of donations to sort through.  The bedrooms and the bathrooms were the only thing off limits.  Pretty soon we were filling a church and then storage units.  The media reached out to spread the word.  Every year it got just a little biggger.  This is just one person in one community giving where she lives.  

The legalities with giving is unbelievable.  One person out there wants to know who is getting what and did you document that.  Someone yells that they are needy and what about me.  When all this begins it makes the "giving" lose its luster.  

From the prospective of the needy looking for help, the things you have to provide to get the help is overwhelming.  When my family needed some help I picked up the phone and thought my road to getting some help was right on the other end.  How wrong I was! Asking for help is not one of my personal strengths and by the time I got off the phone, hours later, I realized I was going to have to keep asking.  It was a lot of red tape and paperwork.  In reality it cost quite of bit of money to get the help.  I had been misled as to how the help came to those in need until I was one of them.  It is a system that has lost it's intention to providing jobs, quotas, budgets, etc..  Nobody asked how hungary I was.   

Sadly I have seen families right where I live, this beautiful "paradise", that are not getting everything they need.  People around me giving to the organizations to help others in Haiti or Immokolee while there are children and their families going without basic needs right here.  Why are these organizations spending hundreds or thousands of dollars taking these donations far, far away?  

Our country and our people have this reputation for helping others; being a huge super power, the world's doctor who has enough bandaids for everyone.  Even in our countries current state of debt our country is still out there giving.  Giving things our country really doesn't have.  We are told by are government that it is our duty to help in other countries; that without us they will not have what they need.  Isn't the true definition of duty is actually obligation?  Isn't our countries first duty ("obligation") to take care of our people first?  Our countries documents say that our government will take care of us and provide it's people with the tools they need to succeed, right?

Does your family always have full bellies?  Do you go to the grocery with no budget?  Do you look the other way at a person that is not "properly" dressed or looks to be hungary?  Is someone in your neighborhood or church or child's school that are going without the basics?  

You don't need to be a senator or need the media or an organization to help someone.  Open your eyes at the wonderful people around you!  Giving does not have limitations and neither does need.  There are people even in the "Paradise" that I live in that are in need, young and old alike.  

If your are not hungary then open your eyes and help someone right in your front yard.  Why don't you ask them:  "So how hungary are you?"


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